kmherrera
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« on: December 09, 2009, 02:48:22 PM » |
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other than riding around using my bike for my car, what's a good way to start training to prepare for racing? i've seen the new lemond fitness bikes, and there's the bikes in the cardio area of the gym. are the virtual race bikes any good? i can handle long rides and everything, but as a total newbie i have no idea how to get my body to a place that it can realistically keep up with the pace of everyone.
also, i've been a marathoner so i'm aware of of gels and drinks, but i was wondering how necessary any of that stuff is. i'd rather just have a healthy diet and hydrate like i should with water...it seems like a more wholesome, natural approach to it all. but of course i don't wanna pass out midrace just because i didn't eat some kind of powerbar beforehand. any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 03:15:18 PM » |
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First, there are a lot of training options that you can find online your best bet right now is to sit down on a bike and ride a lot, out side! Try to go on weekends on group rides as well so you have some pack skills.
As far as nutrition goes, there's no way your body will function with negative balance of electrolytes and carbohydrates. Despite what you think is natural or not, big part of maximal performance is nutrition. Our bodies can't retain enough nutrients for such long physical activities, our bodies are just not made for this. This is why it's important to use these supplements.
Gels and performance food is used because of the connivance of it. It's much easier to consume 15-3 grams of carbohydrates (every 45 min*) in a gel form. Solid foods are really hard to consume during races but its possible and it doesn't taste like______ .
* these are the guide lines for activities that are longer then an hour.
Hope it helped
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Suffering is the key to success.
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andrew.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 06:05:13 PM » |
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I also like Clif bars as some varieties taste good (blueberry!) and they seem to be fine for me on long rides, as long as I munch on them before I'm hungry or energy deprived. And they're mostly organic, if that does anything for the wholesome side of things. I personally don't use supplements, maybe I should. But I just eat a lot!
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Andrew S.
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kgyoung
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 06:56:12 PM » |
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I have tried hydrating with only water and that led to migranes induced by electrolyte imbalances. It sucks. Really listen to what Izzy wrote.
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Kris Y.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 07:45:34 PM » |
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Andrew, it's important to fear supplements. During races drinks that are enhanced with carbohydrates and electrolytes might help you win a race. These drinks are important not only for performance during the race or the training, they are also important for your recovery after the race.
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Suffering is the key to success.
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andrew.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2009, 12:29:11 AM » |
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you sound like my girlfriend! guess i should listen to her... dang
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Andrew S.
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Aiar(Izzy)
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 01:30:36 AM » |
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Suffering is the key to success.
The elephant is the only animal with four knees.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2009, 05:59:13 PM » |
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Iron Joe (not to put you on the spot Joe!) is someone I consider a competitive marathon runner(read: not cyclist) and to my knowledge never got in to supplements. For a balance of dialog you could also talk to him for his perspective.  |
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Steve R.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 07:03:40 PM » |
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These guide lines are set for all endurance athletes. Now when I am thinking about it I also don't remember Joe using any electrolyte drinks or any gels (although I remember him eating during rides)
However, Steve the fact that Joe is not using any dietary supplements doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do. These guidelines have been created after research and a lot of data collection and has proven to work for the average athlete.
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Suffering is the key to success.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 10:56:53 PM » |
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Steve, its catch 22...  (inside joke) |
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IronJoe
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 12:09:29 AM » |
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I guess I should defend myself in that I believe no supplement or energy product will replace a healthy diet, but they will help your performance in endurance races and training because the idea of such events is to test the limits of your body, which will tap into energy reserves and change the body's chemical balance, therefore I do agree with Izzy on all accounts.
To add a little more I would emphasize the importance of high mileage and mix in some workouts like speed, hills, pace, and tempo (sound a bit like a marathon program, it should) Include nutrition as part of your training (long before in preparation, shortly before as an energy boost, during to keep performance and after for recovery). Experiment with different products at different times to find which works the best for you.
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swim 2.4 miles, then bike 112 miles, and finish by running 26.2 miles...
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 05:00:43 PM » |
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Shasta says drink milk, it does a body good!
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Ceasar N.
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Aiar(Izzy)
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 09:58:18 PM » |
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Ok thats good for after work out. Not before!
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Suffering is the key to success.
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SHASTA
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SHASTA SAYS: "HI-SPEED, LOW-DRAG!"
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2009, 01:42:02 AM » |
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Burritos are bad during rides too...  |
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Ceasar N.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2009, 10:55:10 AM » |
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oh yeah!!! hahaha
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Suffering is the key to success.
The elephant is the only animal with four knees.
אפטון, את בת זונה.....
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